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		<title>By: Melissa @Whole9</title>
		<link>http://whole9life.com/2010/01/603-ptp-2/comment-page-5/#comment-17127</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa @Whole9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 23:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew,

We dig that idea! Front squats would be great, pull-ups would only be good if you&#039;ve got a bunch already, and can afford to spend five weeks progressing up to your max. (If you&#039;ve only got 3-5 dead hangs, it doesn&#039;t make sense to start with one... you&#039;ll move up to your max way too fast.) In that case, sub out another exercise (push-ups would be a great one) and consider more of a true grease-the-groove style approach for pull-ups. (Google if you don&#039;t know what that is.)

Best,
Melissa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew,</p>
<p>We dig that idea! Front squats would be great, pull-ups would only be good if you&#8217;ve got a bunch already, and can afford to spend five weeks progressing up to your max. (If you&#8217;ve only got 3-5 dead hangs, it doesn&#8217;t make sense to start with one&#8230; you&#8217;ll move up to your max way too fast.) In that case, sub out another exercise (push-ups would be a great one) and consider more of a true grease-the-groove style approach for pull-ups. (Google if you don&#8217;t know what that is.)</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Melissa</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://whole9life.com/2010/01/603-ptp-2/comment-page-5/#comment-17053</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 23:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PTP is awesome. Currently on Day 22. Did 290/260 today on the DL and 125/110 on the SP. What are your thoughts on running through it again but aiming to strengthening a different set of exercises? For example front squats and pull-ups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PTP is awesome. Currently on Day 22. Did 290/260 today on the DL and 125/110 on the SP. What are your thoughts on running through it again but aiming to strengthening a different set of exercises? For example front squats and pull-ups.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa @ Whole9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa @ Whole9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke,

You can do skin-the-cats on a bar (standard pull-up bar), or sub scaled versions of that exercise (anything from knee-ups to knees-to-elbows to hips over head) on the bar.

For muscle-ups, you can sub pull-ups and dips (the traditional sub is 2-33 strict pull-ups and 2-3 dips = 1 muscle-up, but you can scale that back as well). Just make sure you&#039;re not swinging or kipping anything.

Melissa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke,</p>
<p>You can do skin-the-cats on a bar (standard pull-up bar), or sub scaled versions of that exercise (anything from knee-ups to knees-to-elbows to hips over head) on the bar.</p>
<p>For muscle-ups, you can sub pull-ups and dips (the traditional sub is 2-33 strict pull-ups and 2-3 dips = 1 muscle-up, but you can scale that back as well). Just make sure you&#8217;re not swinging or kipping anything.</p>
<p>Melissa</p>
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		<title>By: Luke R.</title>
		<link>http://whole9life.com/2010/01/603-ptp-2/comment-page-5/#comment-16764</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey peeps, I apologize if you&#039;ve already addressed this and/or if this is common knowledge among the CrossFit clan (not a CrossFitter here), but what should we be doing for &quot;Skin the Cat&quot; and &quot;muscle-ups&quot; if we don&#039;t have rings?

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey peeps, I apologize if you&#8217;ve already addressed this and/or if this is common knowledge among the CrossFit clan (not a CrossFitter here), but what should we be doing for &#8220;Skin the Cat&#8221; and &#8220;muscle-ups&#8221; if we don&#8217;t have rings?</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa @ Whole9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa @ Whole9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 18:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, 500M max efforts are always gnarly. Way to push through! Melissa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, 500M max efforts are always gnarly. Way to push through! Melissa</p>
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		<title>By: Luke R.</title>
		<link>http://whole9life.com/2010/01/603-ptp-2/comment-page-5/#comment-16653</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 17:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh. Today is day 13. I&#039;d never attempted a max effort 500m row before day 9, so I &quot;PR&#039;d&quot; at 1:32. Dry heaved in the bathroom for 5 minutes.

Heavily considering bringing a bucket today.... Thanks for nothing(/everything) Whole9!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh. Today is day 13. I&#8217;d never attempted a max effort 500m row before day 9, so I &#8220;PR&#8217;d&#8221; at 1:32. Dry heaved in the bathroom for 5 minutes.</p>
<p>Heavily considering bringing a bucket today&#8230;. Thanks for nothing(/everything) Whole9!</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa @Whole9</title>
		<link>http://whole9life.com/2010/01/603-ptp-2/comment-page-5/#comment-15247</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa @Whole9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done, Mark! The mass gain is a tricky animal - and, in our experience, usually not sustainable anyway. Slow and steady wins that race, and with a 40# increase in your DL, you&#039;ve certainly picked up some muscle and some strength. Thanks for posting your results!

Melissa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, Mark! The mass gain is a tricky animal &#8211; and, in our experience, usually not sustainable anyway. Slow and steady wins that race, and with a 40# increase in your DL, you&#8217;ve certainly picked up some muscle and some strength. Thanks for posting your results!</p>
<p>Melissa</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://whole9life.com/2010/01/603-ptp-2/comment-page-5/#comment-15227</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weeks 4 &amp; 5: 603 PTP-Clean Mass Gain Experiment

Food was similar to the Week 3 (~4500 calories/day).  All-in-all, very clean throughout these five weeks.

Male/39/5&#039;8&quot;

Start Bodyweight: 150.8#
Finish Bodyweight: 156.2#  (I was 159.6# on Day 33)

Start Press: 135#
End Press: 145# (I think I could press 150# on a good day.)  (I almost cashed it in on the cash out for the shoulder press!)

Start Deadlift: 325#
End Deadlift : 365#

(I did scale the program for 1RMs 10# heavier than my true 1RMs for each of the movements.)

Overall, I&#039;m happy with the results.  Some of the bodyweight I picked up seemed to go to my waist.  (Drinking too many of my daily calories?)  I removed the Food in the Blender after Day 33 and lost almost three pounds over the next 72 hours.

Like Shan, I&#039;m shopping around for my next training cycle.  I have been looking at some of Greg Everett&#039;s training cycles (specifically, the strength and development cycle) at Catalyst Athletics, but the CrossFIt Invictus programming (performance/competition) looks interesting as well.  I think with some appropriate scaling, the Invictus programming might allow me to emphasize and progress in O-lifting and get a (reasonable) daily dose of metabolic conditioning.

Thanks for the program!  The 603 PTP has been a great opportunity for me to recover and reset my training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weeks 4 &amp; 5: 603 PTP-Clean Mass Gain Experiment</p>
<p>Food was similar to the Week 3 (~4500 calories/day).  All-in-all, very clean throughout these five weeks.</p>
<p>Male/39/5&#8217;8&#8243;</p>
<p>Start Bodyweight: 150.8#<br />
Finish Bodyweight: 156.2#  (I was 159.6# on Day 33)</p>
<p>Start Press: 135#<br />
End Press: 145# (I think I could press 150# on a good day.)  (I almost cashed it in on the cash out for the shoulder press!)</p>
<p>Start Deadlift: 325#<br />
End Deadlift : 365#</p>
<p>(I did scale the program for 1RMs 10# heavier than my true 1RMs for each of the movements.)</p>
<p>Overall, I&#8217;m happy with the results.  Some of the bodyweight I picked up seemed to go to my waist.  (Drinking too many of my daily calories?)  I removed the Food in the Blender after Day 33 and lost almost three pounds over the next 72 hours.</p>
<p>Like Shan, I&#8217;m shopping around for my next training cycle.  I have been looking at some of Greg Everett&#8217;s training cycles (specifically, the strength and development cycle) at Catalyst Athletics, but the CrossFIt Invictus programming (performance/competition) looks interesting as well.  I think with some appropriate scaling, the Invictus programming might allow me to emphasize and progress in O-lifting and get a (reasonable) daily dose of metabolic conditioning.</p>
<p>Thanks for the program!  The 603 PTP has been a great opportunity for me to recover and reset my training.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa @Whole9</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa @Whole9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shan,

Congrats - those are amazing results! (Ten pounds on a shoulder press in five weeks is huge.) As for where you go now, there are a few affiliates who do really good strength-focused programming. Check out Coach Rut&#039;s stuff (http://www.bootcampfitnesskc.com/the-fitness-conduit/), or CJ Martin&#039;s work at CrossFit Invictus (http://crossfitinvictus.com). You can also try a program from Coach Rippetoe or Jim Wendler (5-3-1) - both strength focused. That should be a good start!

Best,
Melissa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shan,</p>
<p>Congrats &#8211; those are amazing results! (Ten pounds on a shoulder press in five weeks is huge.) As for where you go now, there are a few affiliates who do really good strength-focused programming. Check out Coach Rut&#8217;s stuff (<a href="http://www.bootcampfitnesskc.com/the-fitness-conduit/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bootcampfitnesskc.com/the-fitness-conduit/</a>), or CJ Martin&#8217;s work at CrossFit Invictus (<a href="http://crossfitinvictus.com" rel="nofollow">http://crossfitinvictus.com</a>). You can also try a program from Coach Rippetoe or Jim Wendler (5-3-1) &#8211; both strength focused. That should be a good start!</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Melissa</p>
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		<title>By: Shan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just finished PTP.  Male, 45yr, 5&#039; 9&quot;, 160lbs start.  160lbs finish ( I&#039;ve been the same weight for the last 25 years, much to my wife&#039;s chagrin.

Diet - 100% gluten free, 90% paleo. 

Shoulder press Start - 155, End - 165 (was hoping for 175, but still happy with 5lbs over body weight)  The cash out for the shoulder press 1RM was brutal!

Deadlift - Start 290, end 320 (very stoked with that, goal was double body weight)

Dallas and Melissa - question - where do I go from here?  I&#039;ve done CF mainsite for 5+ years but would like to add a strength bias to my CF.  Is there an affiliates whose programming you like?

Thanks for the great program.  I&#039;m happy with the results and I had a lot of &#039;fun&#039; with your metcon programming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finished PTP.  Male, 45yr, 5&#8242; 9&#8243;, 160lbs start.  160lbs finish ( I&#8217;ve been the same weight for the last 25 years, much to my wife&#8217;s chagrin.</p>
<p>Diet &#8211; 100% gluten free, 90% paleo. </p>
<p>Shoulder press Start &#8211; 155, End &#8211; 165 (was hoping for 175, but still happy with 5lbs over body weight)  The cash out for the shoulder press 1RM was brutal!</p>
<p>Deadlift &#8211; Start 290, end 320 (very stoked with that, goal was double body weight)</p>
<p>Dallas and Melissa &#8211; question &#8211; where do I go from here?  I&#8217;ve done CF mainsite for 5+ years but would like to add a strength bias to my CF.  Is there an affiliates whose programming you like?</p>
<p>Thanks for the great program.  I&#8217;m happy with the results and I had a lot of &#8216;fun&#8217; with your metcon programming!</p>
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