Comments on: The Whole9 Guide to Eating Dirty (Part II) http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-w9-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/ An integrated system for optimal health and fitness Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:19:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Crystallizations from a Weekend Bender « living the PRIMAL dream http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-w9-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-6183 Crystallizations from a Weekend Bender « living the PRIMAL dream Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:22:46 +0000 http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-byers-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/#comment-6183 [...] The Whole 9 Guide to Eating Dirty (Part II)   Leave a Comment [...] [...] The Whole 9 Guide to Eating Dirty (Part II)   Leave a Comment [...]

]]> By: Cheats and Treats — http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-w9-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-5065 Cheats and Treats — Sat, 01 May 2010 23:00:29 +0000 http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-byers-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/#comment-5065 [...] further reading, check out: Guide to Eating Dirty, Part I and Part II from the Whole Nine Mark Sisson’s 80/20 Principle (read the comments section as well) Primal [...] [...] further reading, check out: Guide to Eating Dirty, Part I and Part II from the Whole Nine Mark Sisson’s 80/20 Principle (read the comments section as well) Primal [...]

]]> By: Gray Areas http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-w9-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-4974 Gray Areas Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:20:47 +0000 http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-byers-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/#comment-4974 [...] Plan your cheats smart: Check out Whole 9’s Guide to Eating Dirty Part I and Part II [...] [...] Plan your cheats smart: Check out Whole 9’s Guide to Eating Dirty Part I and Part II [...]

]]> By: Sunday 2/7/10 | Louisville CrossFit - Derby City CrossFit http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-w9-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2191 Sunday 2/7/10 | Louisville CrossFit - Derby City CrossFit Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:04:21 +0000 http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-byers-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/#comment-2191 [...] Games Rest Strength Rest WOD Rest CF Endurance Here Complete Notes to Good Calories, Bad Calories Guide to Eating Dirty (Part II) Women & Body Image In Women, Training for a Sharper Mind 150lb Kettlebell... are you serious? [...] [...] Games Rest Strength Rest WOD Rest CF Endurance Here Complete Notes to Good Calories, Bad Calories Guide to Eating Dirty (Part II) Women & Body Image In Women, Training for a Sharper Mind 150lb Kettlebell… are you serious? [...]

]]> By: Start Here: The Whole30 | Whole9 http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-w9-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2190 Start Here: The Whole30 | Whole9 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 00:20:08 +0000 http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-byers-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/#comment-2190 [...] Part II of my Guide to Eating Dirty, I recommend cheating smart – indulging in those foods that aren’t [...] [...] Part II of my Guide to Eating Dirty, I recommend cheating smart – indulging in those foods that aren’t [...]

]]> By: A Quilting Fool http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-w9-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2189 A Quilting Fool Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:15:42 +0000 http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-byers-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/#comment-2189 Great couple of posts - my strategy on opportunistic food offers is to someone who is eating the cake, cookie, whatever whether it is THE best cake, cookie, whatever they have ever eaten. If they say yes, I might try it. If no, I pass...seems to work.<br />btw I was lead here from the CF Vallejo, CA site. Great couple of posts – my strategy on opportunistic food offers is to someone who is eating the cake, cookie, whatever whether it is THE best cake, cookie, whatever they have ever eaten. If they say yes, I might try it. If no, I pass…seems to work.
btw I was lead here from the CF Vallejo, CA site.

]]> By: MarcusH http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-w9-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2188 MarcusH Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:04:52 +0000 http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-byers-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/#comment-2188 Melissa, great couple of posts--even if you are the bearer of bad news :). I had been taught the leptin/metabolic boost justification for cheat days and have been guilty of spreading that flawed logic to others. To ensure I'm understanding this right, the takeaway is that you <i>may</i> see progress with cheat days but nowhere near as great as you would if being more strict, correct?<br /><br />There was one other rationale that made me think the cheat day was better that occasional cheats. I figured that you get the whole insulin roller coaster when you cheat, so setting aside one day to wreak havoc on your system was better than multiple dips during the week. Personally, I also find that once I get off the rails the rest of my day is shot due to lethargy and my appetite will be mucked up. Seeing how Mat says you can be screwed for <b>TWO WEEKS</b> off an all-day bender, I obviously must have been wrong here too. <br /><br />I discussed your posts with a friend of mine and some additional questions came up, hopefully you can help us out. From the sound of things, one should optimally aim for no cheats. However, for the mental aspect would you advocate scheduling your 10% cheats? For some, this can keep them on track rather than trying to NEVER cheat and binge eating when they finally break. <br /><br />Secondly, how does this work with someone on CLC and/or IF? Random cheats would seem to derail the benefits of CLC so would it be best to only do so on the "refeed" window? Similarly, with IF the time you'd be most tempted to cheat would be WHILE fasting and you have fewer meals to contribute to your 10%. <br /><br />I'm probably overthinking this, but I appreciate any knowledge you can drop on me! Melissa, great couple of posts–even if you are the bearer of bad news :). I had been taught the leptin/metabolic boost justification for cheat days and have been guilty of spreading that flawed logic to others. To ensure I'm understanding this right, the takeaway is that you may see progress with cheat days but nowhere near as great as you would if being more strict, correct?

There was one other rationale that made me think the cheat day was better that occasional cheats. I figured that you get the whole insulin roller coaster when you cheat, so setting aside one day to wreak havoc on your system was better than multiple dips during the week. Personally, I also find that once I get off the rails the rest of my day is shot due to lethargy and my appetite will be mucked up. Seeing how Mat says you can be screwed for TWO WEEKS off an all-day bender, I obviously must have been wrong here too.

I discussed your posts with a friend of mine and some additional questions came up, hopefully you can help us out. From the sound of things, one should optimally aim for no cheats. However, for the mental aspect would you advocate scheduling your 10% cheats? For some, this can keep them on track rather than trying to NEVER cheat and binge eating when they finally break.

Secondly, how does this work with someone on CLC and/or IF? Random cheats would seem to derail the benefits of CLC so would it be best to only do so on the "refeed" window? Similarly, with IF the time you'd be most tempted to cheat would be WHILE fasting and you have fewer meals to contribute to your 10%.

I'm probably overthinking this, but I appreciate any knowledge you can drop on me!

]]> By: Jason Struck, RKC http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-w9-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2187 Jason Struck, RKC Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:44:13 +0000 http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-byers-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/#comment-2187 since adopting 'paleo' principles many of my 'cheat days' are simply gorges of good stuff in far too great a volume.<br /><br />BBQ and Sausage and Salami type meats mostly. And Cashew and Pistachios out the wazoo. since adopting 'paleo' principles many of my 'cheat days' are simply gorges of good stuff in far too great a volume.

BBQ and Sausage and Salami type meats mostly. And Cashew and Pistachios out the wazoo.

]]> By: Kevin Daigle http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-w9-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2186 Kevin Daigle Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:48:45 +0000 http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-byers-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/#comment-2186 Another great post Mox....and way to rock the CFNE shirt, I LOVE THAT SHIRT...its my favorite one. <br /><br />PS I miss you. Another great post Mox….and way to rock the CFNE shirt, I LOVE THAT SHIRT…its my favorite one.

PS I miss you.

]]> By: Laney Peach Coyne http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-w9-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-2185 Laney Peach Coyne Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:37:54 +0000 http://whole9life.com/2009/06/the-byers-guide-to-eating-dirty-part-ii/#comment-2185 Nice, Byers. My BF and I prefer to call "cheat" meals "choice" meals.. That way it's not such a negative connotation- cuz the choices are ours and they are awesome! I completely agree that you should mix in a few "choices" throughout the week, that way you don't behave like a heroin addict when you finally do let yourself loose. I went to Robb Wolf's cert yesterday and feel super empowered to finally kick the last little bit of gluten out of my world. It's definitely helpful to kick the habit when, if you eat it, it makes you feel like "sucking on the barrel of a gun" (one of my favorite Robb Wolf-isms). <br /><br />Def linking my blog to this post.<br /><br />PS- My max strict pullups went from 9 to 11 last week:) Nice, Byers. My BF and I prefer to call "cheat" meals "choice" meals.. That way it's not such a negative connotation- cuz the choices are ours and they are awesome! I completely agree that you should mix in a few "choices" throughout the week, that way you don't behave like a heroin addict when you finally do let yourself loose. I went to Robb Wolf's cert yesterday and feel super empowered to finally kick the last little bit of gluten out of my world. It's definitely helpful to kick the habit when, if you eat it, it makes you feel like "sucking on the barrel of a gun" (one of my favorite Robb Wolf-isms).

Def linking my blog to this post.

PS- My max strict pullups went from 9 to 11 last week:)

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